Unconscious childhood messages of Enneagram types

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Unconscious childhood messages of Enneagram types

Post by Khys on Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:34 am

Unconscious Childhood Messages:
Type 1 - "It's not okay to make mistakes."
Type 2 - "It's not okay to have your own needs."
Type 3 - "It's not okay to have your own feelings and identity."
Type 4 - "It's not okay to be too functional or too happy."
Type 5 - "It's not okay to be comfortable in the world."
Type 6 - "It's not okay to trust yourself."
Type 7 - "It's not okay to depend on anyone for anything."
Type 8 - "It's not okay to be vulnerable or to trust anyone."
Type 9 - "It's not okay to assert yourself."

Basic Fears:
Type 1 - Fear of being bad, corrupt, evil, or defective.
Type 2 - Fear of being unworthy or unloved.
Type 3 - Fear of being worthless or without inherent value.
Type 4 - Fear of being without identity or personal significance.
Type 5 - Fear of being useless, incapable, or incompetent.
Type 6 - Fear of being without support or guidance.
Type 7 - Fear of being deprived or trapped in pain.
Type 8 - Fear of being harmed or controlled by others.
Type 9 - Fear of loss of connection, of fragmentation.

Basic Desires and their Distortions:
Type 1 - The desire to have integrity (deteriorates into critical perfection).
Type 2 - The desire to be loved (deteriorates into the need to be needed).
Type 3 - The desire to be valuable (deteriorates into chasing after success).
Type 4 - The desire to be oneself (deteriorates into self-indulgence).
Type 5 - The desire to be competent (deteriorates into useless specialization).
Type 6 - The desire to be secure (deteriorates into attachment to beliefs).
Type 7 - The desire to be happy (deteriorates into frenetic escapism).
Type 8 - The desire to protect oneself (deteriorates into constant fighting).
Type 9 - The desire to be at peace (deteriorates into stubborn neglectfulness).

Lost Childhood Messages:
Type 1 - "You are good."
Type 2 - "You are wanted."
Type 3 - "You are loved for yourself."
Type 4 - "You are seen for who you are."
Type 5 - "Your needs are not a problem."
Type 6 - "You are safe."
Type 7 - "You will be taken care of."
Type 8 - "You will not be betrayed."
Type 9 - "Your presence matters."

Spiritual Jump Start (patterns to be aware of):
Unconscious Childhood Messages:
Type 1 - Value-judging, condemning yourself and others.
Type 2 - Giving your value away to others.
Type 3 - Trying to be other than you authentically are. 
Type 4 - Making negative comparisons.
Type 5 - Over interpreting your experience.
Type 6 - Becoming dependent on something outside yourself for support.
Type 7 - Anticipating what you are going to do next.
Type 8 - Trying to force or control your life.
Type 9 - Resisting being affected by your experiences.
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Re: Unconscious childhood messages of Enneagram types

Post by Khys on Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:36 am

Interestingly enough, for me, all my childhood experiences fit Type 8 more than Type 5
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Re: Unconscious childhood messages of Enneagram types

Post by DJ Arendee on Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:46 am

Yeah I think type 4 sounds like my childhood, but that's mostly because my dad was an ESTJ and fun was simply not acceptable.


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Re: Unconscious childhood messages of Enneagram types

Post by Kayness on Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:48 am

there's no doubt that I'm a 9 now.

Not that I REALLY doubted it since I changed my type to 9 (from 5, and before that, 4), but I'd read type 4 description every now and then and would find myselfkreally identifying with it, at almost every health level and even with childhood orientation.


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Re: Unconscious childhood messages of Enneagram types

Post by ohtochooseaname on Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:30 am

Hmm...I'm still torn between 9 and 5 here.
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Re: Unconscious childhood messages of Enneagram types

Post by madhatter on Mon Jul 02, 2012 5:49 pm

5 hits the nail on the head for me.


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Re: Unconscious childhood messages of Enneagram types

Post by mcgooglian on Mon Jul 02, 2012 8:53 pm

9 and 7 hit the mark most for me. Not surprising that I have them both in my trifix.
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Re: Unconscious childhood messages of Enneagram types

Post by MXZCCT on Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:03 pm

6 and 8 rings quite clear to me.
I'm always pondering between the two.


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Re: Unconscious childhood messages of Enneagram types

Post by Ghengis on Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:53 am

8 and 9 speak to me. No wonder. I was typed as 8w9
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Re: Unconscious childhood messages of Enneagram types

Post by spiralshank on Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:09 am

8 to the end

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Re: Unconscious childhood messages of Enneagram types

Post by Niobe on Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:42 pm

Usual don't box me in /don't label. 4, 5, 6. I believe I type as 5w6 or 6w5, usually, sometimes as 9x1
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Re: Unconscious childhood messages of Enneagram types

Post by Siren on Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:58 pm

MXZCCT wrote:6 and 8 rings quite clear to me.
I'm always pondering between the two.

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Re: Unconscious childhood messages of Enneagram types

Post by Duck_of_Death on Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:30 pm

Uh, he posted that in July of last year...


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Re: Unconscious childhood messages of Enneagram types

Post by Siren on Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:19 am

Oh, FFS - thanks Duck. I didn't realize someone necro'd this thread and thought it was new.
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