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Post by DJ Arendee on Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:22 pm

I have some really awesome enneagram recordings that helped explain some actual stuff and not all that crap you find on the interweb.

Here they are, check them out or eat shit, the choice is yours.

Enneagram 1

Enneagram 2

Enneagram 3

Enneagram 4

Enneagram 5

Enneagram 6

Enneagram 7

Enneagram 8

Enneagram 9
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Re: Excellent Enneagram Recordings

Post by ohtochooseaname on Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:07 am

Those are pretty good! I was confused about whether I was a 5 or 9, but I think it's really just that my dissociativeness (5 trait) can make it seem like I am a 9 because I don't really care about a whole lot, so I let other people, who care about whatever it is make the decision, and I am happy to go along with it.
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Re: Excellent Enneagram Recordings

Post by Kayness on Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:34 am

^^ that sounds very Ninish to me...


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Re: Excellent Enneagram Recordings

Post by ohtochooseaname on Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:20 am

Kayness wrote:^^ that sounds very Ninish to me...

I know...plus...in listening to those descriptions, I see a lot of myself in certain aspects of many of the types which means....I'm human, go figure.
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Re: Excellent Enneagram Recordings

Post by madhatter on Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:39 pm

Listened to the 5 recording. It was very insightful.


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Re: Excellent Enneagram Recordings

Post by ohtochooseaname on Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:52 pm

Kayness wrote:^^ that sounds very Ninish to me...

What makes me know that I am not a 9 is that I have zero problems making decisions. I am happy to go with a decision that works, and may not be the best decision. I also have zero anger related to other people making decisions or having expectations for me. This also excludes 1. Pretty much anything in the anger triad makes no sense simply because I am rarely angry or even annoyed, and it has no staying power. I am, on the other hand, nervous all the time unless I am by myself or with my family, and engrossed in whatever we are doing.
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Re: Excellent Enneagram Recordings

Post by DJ Arendee on Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:45 am

Yeah I think they really got to the bottom of the enneagram descriptions. The 8 description was sad yet beautiful. Almost makes me feel like I'm defenseless against a lot of people's tactics and manipulation which is totally true.

"the 8's assertiveness can be mistaken for domination by those out of touch with their own assertiveness, mostly as a form of projection."


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Re: Excellent Enneagram Recordings

Post by DJ Arendee on Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:59 am

ohtochooseaname wrote:Those are pretty good! I was confused about whether I was a 5 or 9, but I think it's really just that my dissociativeness (5 trait) can make it seem like I am a 9 because I don't really care about a whole lot, so I let other people, who care about whatever it is make the decision, and I am happy to go along with it.

Also check out the triads, they're pretty simple too:

Heart: 2,3,4
Head: 5,6,7
Gut: 8,9,1

withdrawn: 4,5, 9
compliant: 1, 2,6
assertive:3,7,8

Positive outlook: 2, 7, 9
Reactive: 4,6,8
Competency: 1, 3,5,

So if you were a 9 you would make decisions with your gut, you would withdraw in order to solve your problems, and you'd percieve the positive things in life instead of seeing the real yet negative things in life.

For example: socionics negativist vs positivist

negativist: "You're an ENFP because you're dumb as shit and can't form complete thoughts." (how I judge people, often why I don't reveal my value judgements either.)
positivist: "you're an ENFP because you're a wonderful person and very good at seeing the possibilities!"

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Re: Excellent Enneagram Recordings

Post by madhatter on Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:13 am

There is also the Object Relations triad:

Frustration: 1, 4, 7
Attaching: 3, 6, 9
Rejection: 2, 5, 8

Another good way to parse out 5 and 9.


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Re: Excellent Enneagram Recordings

Post by Kayness on Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:53 pm

madhatter wrote:There is also the Object Relations triad:

Frustration: 1, 4, 7
Attaching: 3, 6, 9
Rejection: 2, 5, 8

Another good way to parse out 5 and 9.

do you have more info on this?


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Re: Excellent Enneagram Recordings

Post by DJ Arendee on Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:11 pm

uh, so what does that mean? 1's, 4's, and 7's get frustrated over their own toys? lool
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Re: Excellent Enneagram Recordings

Post by madhatter on Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:56 am

Yeah, I have a good link for it.

Here's the main site: http://www.fitzel.ca/enneagram/index.html (this one has links for the other triads too)
And here's the link for Object Relations: http://www.fitzel.ca/enneagram/ObjectRelns.html

No, DJ, the frustration triad is all about frustrated idealism. 1, 4, and 7 will always be seeking an ideal that can never be truly attained.
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Re: Excellent Enneagram Recordings

Post by ohtochooseaname on Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:02 pm

madhatter wrote:Yeah, I have a good link for it.

Here's the main site: http://www.fitzel.ca/enneagram/index.html (this one has links for the other triads too)
And here's the link for Object Relations: http://www.fitzel.ca/enneagram/ObjectRelns.html

No, DJ, the frustration triad is all about frustrated idealism. 1, 4, and 7 will always be seeking an ideal that can never be truly attained.

Thanks! That helps. 5 definitely resonates with me on that one.
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Re: Excellent Enneagram Recordings

Post by madhatter on Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:39 pm

Good. Smile That helped me in deciding between 5 and 9 as well. I'm more concerned with rejection than attaching or going against my environment.

The detachment of 5 and 9 can look very similar on the surface, but it's actually the same symptom of two very different problems.


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Re: Excellent Enneagram Recordings

Post by Siren on Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:18 am

Sticky this one?
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Re: Excellent Enneagram Recordings

Post by DJ Arendee on Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:42 pm

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Re: Excellent Enneagram Recordings

Post by Siren on Sat Oct 27, 2012 7:00 am

OK, I've gone back to 6w5 after listening to the recordings for 3 and 6. I decided I'm am a very stressed out cp6 who is disintegrating to a 3. I need to figure out how to go the other direction.
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Post by MXZCCT on Sat Oct 27, 2012 7:41 am

Siren wrote:OK, I've gone back to 6w5 after listening to the recordings for 3 and 6. I decided I'm am a very stressed out cp6 who is disintegrating to a 3. I need to figure out how to go the other direction.

It's all about keeping a positive mindset. 6w5's tend to perceive through a negative lense.


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Re: Excellent Enneagram Recordings

Post by DJ Arendee on Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:29 pm

When I'm in a hostile situation my 8ness stays and I tend to disintegrate which turns me into a 5w4 with a prevailant 4 wing which has a slight tendency to associate into a 1 if I'm staring back up on my road to recovery in the right circumstances. Although if the situation is right, I'll integrate to 2w3 with a dissociated 3 wing at 9 which ultimately makes me look like a 9 the majority of my life. Granted this is only if I'm not bored and feeling adventurous when my integrated 7 wing starts to shine and I start to look 5'ish. But the problem with that is that I'll start to be made fun of for not being confident enough which will make me have to go back to being an 8 again on mondays.
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